This was an interview I did for The Black Sheep when it was still called the Booze News. A shorter version was printed around June 2010. This is the online version.
I had the pleasure of interviewing Tyler Knight, one of the leading Black pornstars of the last decade, aspiring novelist, and former World of Warcraft addict. His porn resume is extensive, having done hundreds with women in nearly one thousand scenes since 2002. But he is perhaps most famous for his roles in parody pornos such as Not The Cosby Show XXX, The A-Team XXX, and as Tiger in the upcoming, Tiger’s Wood. His career in porn is mostly focused on women and couples-friendly porn, for which he won 2009 Heart Throb of The Year by the Good For Her Feminist Porn Awards. He has also authored many stories and novellas available on his site, www.tylerknight.com(no nudity, just graphic language).
X: Let’s get right to the interesting stuff, what is the hardest part of performing on set?
TK: Obtaining then maintaining an erection for an hour or more under the most un-erotic and inhospitable conditions imaginable with a co-star that does not want to be there. Then, bringing yourself to the pinnacle of arousal, often with no help or stimulation, through sheer concentration while surly Teamster types watch and talk about their weekends.
X: Favorite porn star to work with? You can only name one Asian, one Latina, one Black, one redhead, Euro, brunette, blonde…
TK: After close to 1,000 scenes you’re desensitized and don’t think in terms of “favorite” anymore. You appreciate who is most user friendly, professional, hygienic, and able to keep her insanity in check until the scene is done.
Asian: Charmaine Star, Nautica Thorn.
Latina: Lorena Sanchez
Black: Misty Stone, Marie Luv
Red Head: Madison Young
Euro: Barbara Summer, Katja Kassin
Brunette: Amber Rain
Blonde: Krissy Lynn
These women are not the sole representatives in their respective categories. They happen to be on my short list.
X: How do you prepare for a scene?
TK: I take people’s temperatures. Meaning, I speak to the director and the girl and see where they are mentally and emotionally. If the outlook is grim I’ll pop an Emergency-Use-Only Viagra. Regardless of whether the director is an idiot and/or the girl may be hostile I still have to get the job done. The public and even critics have no idea what dramas happens behind the scenes, and if a scene is less than stellar it’s always blamed on the male talent. Always.
Anyway, that was a digression. Back to point. After I determine the sanity of the female talent I decide if I must be Carl Jung, a baby talking dad, a self-deprecating Colombo, or Obi Wan slinging Jedi mind tricks to cajole a usable performance out of the girl. Often times when I’m with two or three girls in a given scene I have to switch back and forth–often different things at different stages of the scene with a single girl. Then there are group scenes with several girls and other male talent to contend with. It can be mentally exhausting. Most of my preparation is dealing with other personalities, this is a skill-set in itself.
X: Please dispel the myth of the correlation between vaginal tightness and promiscuity for us once and for all.
TK: I believe I pull my data from a large enough sample group to state with confidence there is no correlation whatsoever.
X: Tell us about the magical first scene that started it all.
TK: This was back in 2002 when VCA was in the business of making big budget features, before Larry Flynt bought them out. Basically, it was a restaurant scene with me, the contract girl Chloe, the crew of 2 dozen people (grips, boom mike guys, two camera men, director, and video tech behind monitors, the “c-light” guy whose job is to hover a light near the “action” to make sure its well lit), AND a dozen civilian (non porn) extras sitting at various tables for atmosphere surrounding Chloe and me. Not what I expected!
At that point, aside from girlfriends, and my mom, the only others I’ve been naked in front of was my doctor, and God.
The adrenaline dump hit me cold like a bucket of chipped ice flung in my face. Cotton mouth. Myopic vision. Sweats.
Hell. I’m dressed as a waiter, waiting off camera for my cue, sweaty palms, cotton mouth in full effect, murdering myself with viciously negative inner monologue, and doubt…
What if I’m too small and she laughs…what if I pop to soon, what if I forget my lines, what if the extras laugh, what the hell does “open up for the camera” mean? Shit, a table? How the hell is that going to work? I’m 200 lbs, I’ll snap it., SHIT… that’s Randy fuckin’ Spears! I can’t compare to him! Is Randy looking at me? That’s kinda weird!…WHAT IF I CAN’T GET IT UP!
Chloe is at her table delivering dialogue to another girl, whom after a short exchange gets up and leaves the table. That’s my cue. The PA gives me the nod so I walk over to the table…
…Dead Man Walking. As soon as I step under the lights, I noticed the temperature is easily 20 degrees warmer. The broiling air around me seemed to flicker like a mirage over an asphalt road in August. I truly was in hell after all!
I deliver my dialogue at mach 5 while staring at my shoes. Apparently that was good enough (hey, it’s porn after all) because the next thing I know, she is undoing my pants, and reveals Mr. Softee!
Space/time was warped: the next 20 minutes battling for an erection seemed like a year that would never end. To save film they turned off the cameras while waiting for me. After stroking it long enough to get semi-hard I said I was ready, only to have the erection wilt as soon as the cameras were turned back on. They killed the cameras and waited again while I stroked hard enough to start a fire. Half-hard once more, I forced the words, “I’m ready” past my clenched and dry throat. The second the cameras were back on, penile free-fall. This repeated four more times, and even if there were fluffers–thing of the past–it would have been moot. I had a beautiful (although fully clothed and inspecting her fingernails) girl right in front of me. Each time the crew’s grumbling, scoffing, and complaining grew louder until eventually it grew into a crescendo with them speaking about me as is I wasn’t in the room.
This was not hell, it was purgatory.
So the director, who has seen it all , handed me a stack of magazines, told me to go off set away from everyone else, jerk off, then come back when I’m ready. “I can do that. I’ve jerked off a million times,” I said to myself.
I flip through the selection of magazines…”Juggs”, “Black Tail”, “Fat And Flatulent”. I go with “Jugs”. 3 (three, III) strokes into working up my wood, I ejaculate in my hand. I wanted the Earth to swallow me up. I was screwed.
Option A) Man up, return to set and fess up to blowing the days shooting and probably fifteen thousand dollars of the studio’s money.
Option B) Calculate the trajectory so that if I jump out the second floor bathroom window and roll on impact, would I be ok.
My IDs were in the production manager’s pocket on set, and I was wearing a shirt, and no pants (on set as well). Running around Downtown LA with a shirt and no pants is only cute if you are named Winnie the Pooh.
I went back and dealt with the consequences.
X: Shoulda gone with “Fat and Flatulent”. Next question. Is it tougher in the industry as a black pornstar?
TK: Even in 2010 it’s harder for minorities and women to reach the pinnacle of any profession, but at least competence and hard work may overcome these obstacles in other vocations. This is not so with the adult industry. Porn is the only profession where a person may be denied work or be fired based solely on the worker’s race. That, and there’s a better than even chance that your co-worker in porn may be paid more because she has to endure working with you. I have another, even longer anecdote:
Everybody is smoking. The director, the assistant and the girl. The naked goth girl is all elbows and knees. She reminds me of a hurt fawn limping alone in the woods, decoying would be predators straight to prison-where inside of ten minutes of incarceration the predator is now the prey–passed around, hurt, limping. Whore-red lipstick smudged around the filter of her cigarette she is holding. Not my type, but whatever. The other male talent I’m told is on set in the livingroom. The director’s assistant hands me paperwork, takes my IDs to photograph them. The director explains the scene.
“Ever done a double penetration before?” he asks.
Nope.
“Once.”
The assistant hands my IDs back to me.
“How did it go?”
A roach scurries across the wall behind the director’s shoulder.
“Okay I guess,” I say to the roach. I finish my sentence to the six-foot-tall insect that’s going to pay me. “the proximity of another dude’s scrotum as he digs in a girls anus while I’m inside her vagina isn’t my favorite thing in the world to do but whatever, it’s money. As long as there’s no sword fighting or ball touching involved I’m cool.”
The director walks away. Conversation over.
The girl and I play I’ll-show-you-mine-if-you-show-me-yours with our STD tests. The other male talent’s test is on the table.
After the homework is done, I shoulder my bag and excuse myself to the bathroom so I can freshen up and return the call.
The bathroom.
A single, bare bulb above is layered with dust, basking my skin jaundice yellow in its light. Black and fuzzy mold or mildew, the hell if I know for sure which, speckle the beige walls with their spores.
A Smurf-patterned shower curtain hangs outside the tub. It dangles on two rings giving the middle a depressive sag. Hanging there on its ring-as-hands for love of life. Caked-on soap scum at its tattered bottom. If it could speak it would beg for euthanasia.
The tub itself, a primordial tide pool with exotic life spawning from the sludge. A corpse could be dissolving in the bottom of the murk for all I know. I give it a wide berth as if I expect a hand to thrust out and pull me into the abyss. It wouldn’t surprise me if the home owner has gills and fins. Calcium deposits on the shower head probably focuses the flow into an industrial water-jet beam that can cut steel.
Not going to wash in that thing. May as well return the call.
He answers on the first ring. “Yeah, look man, I’m sorry but I can’t use you tomorrow.”
I take a breath before speaking. I don’t say the first four things to come to mind. “Why?”
There is a pause. “You know I like you and I think you’re gonna do well in the business–”
“Brian, get to the point.”
He says, “Nadia decided she doesn’t want to do interracial.”
I suppress a chuckle but nothing is funny. Even though I’ve never heard the term before, it’s self-evident. I still want him to come out and say it. “What the hell is ‘interracial’?”
“Look, you’re black–”
“Really?”
“–and she won’t work with you, Tyler.”
The police helicopter’s thwumping fades away. I want to set the bag down but think the better of it.
I say, “This is ridiculous, look at Nadia and look at me–I wouldn’t screw her if I wasn’t getting paid either. Hell, I’ve had sex with models from all over the world, my race was never an issue with women until I got into this business.”
He says, “Photographic evidence.”
“ ‘Photographic evidence?’ What am I, a goddamn yeti?” I reach into the bag still slung over my shoulder and pull out my toiletry kit. “That’s the problem, you people think everybody outside the porn bubble thinks like you do and you assume that most girls outside of the business think like that–”
“I don’t make the rules, man–it’s whatever the girls and the studio wants.”
This month’s porn trade magazine has a full page, one-sheet ad of Nadia doing some truly apocalyptic stuff on camera.
I take out my toothbrush and go to run it under hot water from the sink but my hand stops cold at the spigot. I settle for toothpaste and the saliva in my mouth.
I say, “So the act of getting chain sodomized by ten guys–all of them ejaculating inside her while dunking her head in a toilet, then blowing feces-and-semen bubbles out of her anus on camera is okay with the parents at home, as long as it’s white and not negro penis. Is this correct?”
“Hey man-–”
“Did it ever cross you mind to-–gee, I dunno–cast a black girl for a change? Or perhaps one of the 4 trillion other girls, most of them way hotter than her, that have no ‘moral dilemma’ with doing an interracial porn scene?”
He says, “Well, her morality has a price. She will do the scene but I’d have to pay her extra money to work with you. It’s not in my budget but if you agree we can pay her the extra money out of your chec–”
I click the cellie shut.
Tyler, the mope.
I take my time brushing my teeth. The routine relaxes me. A little. When I’m done, I wrap the brush in toilet paper, put it and the toothpaste back in my toiletry kit. A thought occurs to me and I take my toothbrush out of the toiletry kit and drop it on the floor. In my toiletry kit is an in-case-of-emergency Viagra.
Bird in hand, Eric.
I chew the pill. It powders tart and citrusy in my mouth like licking a 9-volt battery. It bites me back with a twang in my salivary glands. With my tongue I pry loose the caked-on deposit from my molars and swallow. No water.
Lovely. I’ll still need one more scene after this.
Now after reading that anecdote try something for me. The next time you are at work I want you to storm into your bosses office and demand more money because the person in the next cubicle is a Jew.
X: Do you find it funny when an Asian girl’s agent says she “doesn’t do interracial?”
TK: Funny is not the adjective I’d use.
Gather round, cause Daddy Tyler’s got another story for you children.
I’m in a director’s office. We’re going to make a big budget flick that culminates with a group sex scene. Group scenes consist of several people switching partners a few times during the scene. This is to be the big movie of the year for this studio. Casting well is of paramount importance.
Director: Is there anyone you do not want to work with in this scene?
I know this studio only shoots top shelf girls. The best. Both in looks and in professionalism. My “no list” is moot.
Tyler: Not really, bro. As long as the girls are into working with me it’s all good.
The next week. On location six billion lightyears from LA.
Night time. People are cleaning up just before the sex scene after shooting action sequences and blowing shit up in the hot desert all day. Cameras are loaded. The fucking will commence shortly.
Director: Hey Tyler. You got a minute?
Tyler: Sure. Que Paso?
Director: “Cindy” does not want to work with you. She does not do interracial.
(Cindy is Asian. There are many Asian porn starlets that claim not to do interracial sex scenes. The thing is, there are exactly zero Asian male porn stars [in feature porn], making any boy/girl sex scene they do interracial. What they mean is they won’t work with a black person.)
Tyler:We had this conversation in your office. You specifically asked me if there is any girl I did not want to work with. I said–
Director: I know man. Look, I’m sorry.
A blonde porn girl walks by. The director grabs her by the arm.
Director: Hey “Brenda” you don’t mind working with Tyler do ya?
He is asking this now? What if she says no, too–-does he expect me to just go home?
Brenda: Not at all. He’s beautiful. I’ll fuck him any day!
Brenda walks off.
Tyler: There are three boys and three girls. Don’t you think it will be awkward with me sitting by myself for a good part of the scene?
Director: We’ll figure it out, my man. We can always edit and cut around you.
I’m silent. It is impossible to replace female talent at this hour. Especially where we are so far from the city. I’m as welcome as a dead roach in your bowl of corn flakes.
Director: You okay, Tyler? You’re not upset are ya?
Where the hell am I going to go? What he does not know is I have replaced the fantasy of banging firm young women with the sound of my V8 howling past set at 8,000 RPM. At this point in time I am the only black guy this studio shoots. I do not give a fuck if I’m never hired again. What I care about is the fact that I am in a fishbowl. Mr. Marcus and I are the de-facto point men for the entire Goddamn black talent pool with the high end studios. Our actions are scrutinized to an impossible standard and affects possibilities and opportunities for others. I leave set, and the go “SEE? Thats exactly why we don’t hire black guys!”
Still…
I give my short throw shifter a “click” and I mash the accelerator. Wheels spin. A pebble kicked up from my tires finds the director’s left ball. The needle on the speedometer climbs until it is pinned, as this tool and his set gets smaller in my rear view mirror…
Tyler: Nah it’s cool man. I really would appreciate it if next time you cast girls in a porn whom…gee, I dunno…will actually have sex with me?
Director: You’re a team player my man!
Die in a fire.
During the scene I hate-fuck Brenda’s ass. The other two male talent struggle to maintain erections, leaving the other girls largely untouched.
I gloat.
Who knows why any girl opts to avoid interracial scenes? Personal choice? Life experience? Profound ideological/moral conflict? Burning Bush? It’s a fools errand trying to understand the mind and actions of others. I have a challenging enough time as it is understanding myself, so even as a person directly impacted by this at least monthly I give it zero thought why, for that’s an exercise in futility. Frankly, I’m glad when a girl opts out of or refuses to do a scene because I am black for whatever reason she has. I respect her honesty and as consumer who is spending his/her hard earned money, so should you.
The question you should really be asking is: wouldn’t you rather see a scene with a girl who is actually into the person she is working with as opposed to a girl that has been Jedi mind tricked into doing an interracial scene for say, a few hundred dollars extra and is virtually counting the minutes with an abacus till the pop shot and shower?”
As a professional, I’d just as soon call it and go home if my scene partner has a thought bubble floating above her head like in the cartoons with her overdue Sprint cellphone bill in it.
I care about the quality of work I do too much for that. While this is not a dating service, I’m way past putting out bullshit scenes just for the money. Short term gain = long term loss. It’s challenging enough as it is doing consistent good quality work without starting off 10 paces behind the start line due to poor casting. The consumer, my de- facto boss, deserves better.
X: How common are performance enhancing drugs in porn? How about booze, weed, and narcotics (on set)?
TK: As a professional male performer, perfection is demanded of you every single time. You may win or be nominated for a dozen performing awards, be spot-on seventy scenes in a row for a director, but the one time you’re human and have an off day that’s what he’ll harp on forever. It may be used as a negotiating tool to lower your rate for the next time. If there is a next time. In porn these days you are not as good as your last performance. You are only as good as the performance you are giving right now.
With the advent of Caverject, an embalming fluid site injected into the penis for an instant erection designed for use by quad and paraplegics, you are competing with kids that circumvent the learning curve by shooting their penises up. This also circumvents the human element, the performance is mechanical, and you lose several dimensions in the performance. Also, with an open and often bleeding wound on the side of the penis escalates the scene farther up the risk/reward matrix. But nobody cares. With piracy and bit-torrent, and the death of DVD, every scene can mean the difference between profit and loss for the entire movie so talent is viewed as equipment that can be replaced, like a burned out set light.
Drugs and/or narcotics? In eight years I’ve only seen it a half dozen times. Excluding marijuana–that’s ubiquitous. Now, just because I don’t actually see it is no real indication of prevalence one way or the other, but I’ll say drugs on set are nowhere near as common as the perception.
X: I’ve heard your mention that you feel like you and Mr. Marcus are the token black guys. Do you feel like you’re in competition with the other top tier black performers like Lex?
TK:No. There is plenty of room for more. I can go months without seeing another black porn star. I have never seen [Lexington Steele] on a set. Never. The only time our paths have crossed in nearly a decade was on an ultra-rare occasion I got bribed into going to a trade show. Even if there wasn’t more room I don’t much care. My ambitions extend farther than being the top black pornstar. If that’s the pinnacle of my life goals…
X: How come female ejaculation porn looks nothing like female ejaculation in real life? Well, with the exception of Axel Braun’s movies.
TK: Because its fake.
X: If you could change one thing about the porn industry, what would it be?
TK: A doomsday meteor impacting Porn Valley.
X: Evan Stone has a story about how Nina Hartley made him go from impotent to “Oh Shit!” in 10 seconds with her mouth. Can you confirm her blowjob skills, and do you have any other stories of porn stars with incredible skills?
TK: Not really. Receiving oral sex isn’t my thing. Frankly, I’m surprisingly a-sexual. Funny choice of vocation, right?
X: What are your World of Warcraft characters and what server?
TK: I have not played in over a year. It’s a time suck. Funny thing happened when I quit playing Warcraft. I wrote a novel, published a dozen stories in several literary magazines, landed a monthly column, started a second novel, and lost 26 pounds.
(Tyler claims to have logged a total of 365 days playtime in a 4 year timespan with his main toons, a Death Knight tank and an 80 Mutilate spec’d Rogue.)
X: Cormac McCarthy, great writer, or best writer?
TK: He has his strengths and weaknesses. Some of his work reads like a King James bible with no punctuation and can be quite laborious, which is okay if you don’t mind that. I don’t mind the use of arcane words.–I enjoyed Moby Dick. Blood Meridian was a very well crafted and enjoyable read. There are a lot of writers I’d list as my favorites before McCarthy’s name came up, but that’s all personal taste.
X: It was a pleasure interviewing you, Tyler. We wish you luck on your writing career and look forward to your second novel.
You can read Tyler’s many fascinating creative memoirs and stories on www.tylerknight.com